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MacSteve
12-03-2009, 03:19 PM
As Per Request here is a thread all about TSP aka Thrift Savings Plan.



The TSP is a retirement savings plan for civilians who are employed by the United States Government and members of the uniformed services. The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board, administers the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP)
http://www.tsp.gov/

Basicaly TSP is a retirement plan offered by the federal gov't to employees and members of the Uniformed services (military). In bootcamp, you will have the option to enroll in TSP. DO IT
WHEN enrolled in TSP you will have the option to choose a certain Percentage of your monthly income to deposit into your account. The average for low ranking enlisted seems to be 2-5%, and for e4 and above 10-25%.
When you contribute to TSP, there are several "accounts" to invest in. high risk to low risk. High risk, obviously are more prone to dropping during decrease in economy, but gain the fastest.. visa versa.
so now that the basics are covered, heres a FAQs section that I will post up. if you have any more questions that aren't listed, please ask them. I will gladly add your post to this first one, and answer it; increasing the FAQ.
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When can I contribute to the TSP?

You can contribute to the TSP at any time. Your contributions will begin no later than the first full pay period after your agency accepts your election
How do I start my contributions to my TSP account?
If by some reason you opt to not enroll in TSP in bootcamp, you may start it up at any time. To start contributing to the TSP, ask your personnel office for the TSP Election Form (TSP-1), download the form from this Web site, or use your agency's electronic version if one is available. Complete the form to show whether you want to contribute a percentage of your basic pay or a fixed whole dollar amount each pay period.
Your agency will deduct the amount you choose from your pay each pay period and will continue to do so until you submit another election to stop or change the amount.
What if I transfer to another agency?
If you transfer to another agency, your new agency should continue your contributions and loan payments, if any, without interruption. To avoid any delay, you should notify your new personnel office that you have been contributing to the TSP; you should also notify them if you have a loan.
How do I change the amount of my contributions?
If you want to change the amount of your TSP employee contributions, submit Form TSP-1 to your agency (or use your agency's electronic version, if your agency has one). THE NAVY DOES
What is a contribution allocation?
A contribution allocation specifies the way contributions to your account will be invested among the TSP funds. The contribution allocation applies to all future contributions, as well as loan payments and transfers (or rollovers) of funds from other plans into the TSP. It does not affect the money already in your account. (To change the way your existing account balance is invested, you must make an interfund transfer.)
How do I make a contribution allocation?
To specify the way you want your contributions to be invested, use this Web site or the ThriftLine, or submit Form TSP-50, Investment Allocation, to the TSP. (Do not submit Form TSP-50 to your agency.) If you have not previously invested in the F, C, S, I, or L Funds, you must acknowledge the risk of investing in these funds before you can proceed with your contribution allocation. To request a contribution allocation, follow the instructions and enter the percentages you want invested in each fund each pay period. Percentages must be stated in one percent increments and must add up to 100 percent. Whether you are using the Web site or the ThriftLine, be sure to follow the instructions to confirm the percentages or your allocation will not be effective.
The Web site and the ThriftLine are the most efficient ways of making a contribution allocation. Contribution allocations generally will become effective within 2 business days of the date the TSP receives your request.
What if I do not make a contribution allocation?
All contributions, including your agency contributions if you are FERS, will be invested in the G Fund until you make a contribution allocation on this Web site or the ThriftLine or submit Form TSP-50 to the TSP.
How do I designate beneficiaries for my TSP account?
To designate beneficiaries to receive your account in the event of your death, download Form TSP-3, Designation of Beneficiary, from this Web site, or ask your personnel office for it. If you have left Federal service, you can also obtain the form from the TSP. If you do not file Form TSP-3 with the TSP record keeper to designate beneficiaries for your account, your account will be distributed after your death according to the order of precedence required by law.



Once again, any questions not answered feel free to ask and I will add them to this FAQ with appropriate Answers.

Steve

EDIT: Link directly to the TSP home page provided by DK3

http://www.tsp.gov/uniserv/features/index.html
EDIT: FAQ submitted by NickhallNavy
you can take a loan out of your TSP after a while, after a $50 fee, every cent of the interest (3%) goes back into your account. so you pay yourself to take a loan! i just did that and paid off 3 credit cards. it's a great way to get out of debt, and pay yourself!

EDIT ANSWERED BY DK3:so its basically a 401k right? the gov sets it up for you but do they match like some companies do?
Who is entitled to receive matching contributions?
Under the law that extended the TSP to the uniformed services, the secretary responsible for each service may designate critical specialties for matching contributions. Members serving in those specialties who agree to serve on active duty for 6 years may be eligible for matching contributions during the 6-year active duty obligation.

The matching contributions apply only to amounts contributed from basic pay and not from any incentive pay or special pay. If you do not contribute basic pay to the TSP, you will not be eligible to receive matching contributions. Matching contributions apply to the first 5 percent of pay that you contribute each pay period. Your contributions are matched dollar-for-dollar on the first 3 percent of pay you contribute each pay period and 50 cents on the dollar for the next 2 percent of pay.
As of the date of this Web edition, matching contributions had not been authorized by any of the uniformed services. Your service will notify you if you are eligible to receive matching contributions

nickhallnavy
12-03-2009, 04:17 PM
the TSP is awesome. you can take a loan out of your TSP after a while, after a $50 fee, every cent of the interest (3%) goes back into your account. so you pay yourself to take a loan! i just did that and paid off 3 credit cards. it's a great way to get out of debt, and pay yourself!

MacSteve
12-04-2009, 12:03 AM
sweet thanks! added the faq to the original posts for those just to say its in there


I may look into this too hah

sketch
12-04-2009, 12:21 AM
pretty glad I saw this before shipping out.

KYmom
12-04-2009, 06:17 AM
and you should up your percentage that you put in while your are deployed and working in that tax free zone.
The more you save now while there are no wife & kids the better off you will be.

I know Nick has a wife but they need to save before kids come into the picture.
Those little rug rats are expensive. LOL

Retired Navy Chief
12-04-2009, 08:32 AM
Awesome ... thank you for doing that MacSteve.

KYmom is right .... timing is everything, take advantage of saving while you have no financial responsibilities and it will help carry you through the times when you do !!

Cheers,
PISTOL

nickhallnavy
12-04-2009, 09:39 AM
yea, we are using this as the first step to putting money into a savings account. with bills paid off, that's about 200 per month we can start saving

bnavy
12-04-2009, 02:00 PM
so its basically a 401k right? the gov sets it up for you but do they match like some companies do?

DK3
12-04-2009, 02:14 PM
so its basically a 401k right?

Yes

the gov sets it up for you but do they match like some companies do?

Your answer: http://www.tsp.gov/uniserv/features/chapter04.html

Who is entitled to receive matching contributions?
Under the law that extended the TSP to the uniformed services, the secretary responsible for each service may designate critical specialties for matching contributions. Members serving in those specialties who agree to serve on active duty for 6 years may be eligible for matching contributions during the 6-year active duty obligation.

The matching contributions apply only to amounts contributed from basic pay and not from any incentive pay or special pay. If you do not contribute basic pay to the TSP, you will not be eligible to receive matching contributions. Matching contributions apply to the first 5 percent of pay that you contribute each pay period. Your contributions are matched dollar-for-dollar on the first 3 percent of pay you contribute each pay period and 50 cents on the dollar for the next 2 percent of pay.
As of the date of this Web edition, matching contributions had not been authorized by any of the uniformed services. Your service will notify you if you are eligible to receive matching contributions

MacSteve
12-04-2009, 02:40 PM
updated!

DK3
12-04-2009, 02:43 PM
the gov sets it up for you but do they match like some companies do?

Additional research. It appears by the way the bill is set up, the services COULD contribute if you signed up for six years, but apparently none have set that up.

August 2001 article:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_pnav/is_200108/ai_758870680/

TSP is a government retirement and investment program, similar to "401(K)" plans that are offered by civilian corporations. The program encourages participants to voluntarily save a portion of their pre-tax pay in a special retirement account. It differs from a 401K plan in that TSP does not offer matching contributions.

From the Navy Federal website:

http://www.navyfederal.org/investinsure/thriftsavings.html



Matching contributions from the government (your Service) …

are allowed under the law that extended the TSP to the uniformed services. The law permits each Service Secretary to designate critical specialties for contribution matching. But to date, no matching contributions have been authorized by any of the Services.

MacSteve
12-04-2009, 03:08 PM
since thats at the end of your original answer, I'm not going to update the faq.. good lookin out and emphasizing on this however! I actually had no idea some companies contribution matched.

DK3
12-04-2009, 03:36 PM
since thats at the end of your original answer, I'm not going to update the faq.. good lookin out and emphasizing on this however! I actually had no idea some companies contribution matched.

That's fine. I posted that because I went looking for the rates that would qualify for the matching contributions and ended up finding that information and thought it would be good to know/read.

Pretty much all companies match their 401k and 457 accounts. My wife's old company matched the first 10% of her 401k contributions. She was forced to move to another company and the new company only contributes 6% yearly. So, its' just a gamble.

I have a Defined Benefit retirement plan (similar to military but less valuable) and a 457 account that is similar to a 401k that I and my company contributes to.

Kristie
12-04-2009, 05:37 PM
Thank you for contributing this....great info for Deppers!

bnavy
12-05-2009, 02:04 AM
Thanksa very much!

biscuit
12-31-2009, 02:34 AM
Ooh. I'll read this after I've slept. But I signed up for it! Is this the thingie that's like they put your money into the stock market? I know I paid attention in that cl*** it's just laatteeeee.

DK3
12-31-2009, 08:58 AM
...I signed up for it! Is this the thingie that's like they put your money into the stock market?

Yes and good job. Shovel as much money into this account while you are young and have fewer expenses.

You will be glad you did when you are older.

biscuit
12-31-2009, 07:20 PM
I've signed up for so many different options of savings that I'm itching to see my LES, I forgot where all my money's going! Ahhh!

MacSteve
12-31-2009, 07:49 PM
new one just came out FYI ;)

rmc
05-02-2010, 08:30 PM
okay i understand that this is a savings plan. my question is how does my money grow here? how much interest do i make? Lets say for example i put in $2400 in one year. how much do i get out of that? Sorry im confuse. Thanks

DK3
05-03-2010, 08:32 AM
It all depends upon the market. If for example, the stocks/funds that you have the money distributed to grows by 5% in a year, then you would see an increase of 5%. However, if the stocks/funds fell by 5% in a year, then you would have lost 5%.

This isn't a savings account per se, it's an investment account that you contribute money too in hopes that it will increase in value. As with all investments, you CAN lose money, however, unless you did an absolutely terrible job in selecting your investments, you aren't going to lose money.

acer87
05-03-2010, 08:42 AM
just think of it as a 401k

SteindorGC
08-05-2010, 12:22 AM
during our most recent DEP meeting, our recruiter said that you will only get one chance to enroll in a TSP, and that's during boot camp. Is this correct. Also, didn't see it covered here, but he also said that if you decide to stop your TSP, you can never start it again. Can anyone comfirm/deny?

MacSteve
08-05-2010, 12:57 AM
its 100% fake. at any point you can enroll in TSP

SteindorGC
08-05-2010, 09:28 PM
Thanks for the speedy reply MacSteve, my recruiters have been totally honest so far, so maybe this was just a misunderstanding of his own.

its 100% fake. at any point you can enroll in TSP

Retired Navy Chief
08-05-2010, 09:48 PM
Probably meant one time DURING bootcamp.

Cheers,
PISTOL