Getting out due to High Year Tenure

[trio4]

Got a huge suprise the other day...hubby found out he will be getting out in August due to High Year Tenure. He thought he was under a grandfather clause...apparently not.

Can anyone tell me if we will still receive any benefits? Do we loose everything? I am a Type 1 diabetic and loosing Tricare is so scary for me. I grew up with Tricare under my AF dad and I know insurance will be insane for me and all my supplies that I need. I've heard there is a lump sum severance pay they give out, but that there is no monthly retirement pay since you don't get to retirement. I feel this is so unfair. It's not that my husband hasn't busted his butt to get to E6. Over the last 3 years, they've moved up very few to E6 in his rate and it's impossible for him to move up. He always planned on being in for 20 years. It's hard to believe that after all his service, this is how they are going to thank him. 13 yrs in...and this is what he gets....Yet they are taking HS dropouts without GEDs and paying for them to have a great life, but they are going to screw the guys who have dedicated themselves to the Navy. This is so unfair.

Any advice as to how we cope through this huge life changing event will be greatly appreciated. We have 2 children, my health concerns, and don't have the slightest clue what we are going to do. He has put in resumes with civilian contractors already and he is looking into the reserves.

Thanks in advance.

[DK3]

Sorry to hear this! I know things are looking too bright right now and hope they get much better for you.

This link may provide you with some info:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/fy2009paycharts/a/isepenl.-uVm.htm

[MacSteve]

so they definitely aren't taking HS dropouts without GEDs now. In fact from what I've heard, they are requiring atleast 15 college credits to enlist.
Also I'm a little confused.. if your husband is an e6, he should have no problems? Plenty of others retire without hitting chief.

However I'm sorry to hear,
according to OPNAVINST 1900.4 which explains the rules of involuntary discharge due to HYT and a few other protocols,
involuntarily separated in returning to civilian life. It
is intended to encourage the pursuit of a military career
through the assurance that those unable to remain on active duty
until eligible for retired or retainer pay can count on
compensation to ease their re-entry into civilian life.
Separation pay will be paid to members involuntarily separated
from active service and to those not accepted for an additional
tour of active duty for which they volunteered, as provided in
this instruction.
6. Rates of Separation Pay. The amount of separation pay for
an individual shall be calculated as follows:
a. Full separation pay is 10 percent of the product of the
member's years of active military service and 12 times the
monthly basic pay to which the member was entitled at the time
of discharge or release from active duty.

Regular enlisted members must have completed at
least six years of active duty service prior to separation. The
qualifying years do not have to be continuous; however, the last
phase of the qualifying term must end immediately before the
separation, discharge or release.

So from what I understand, your husband will recieve full separation pay unless he stays reserve. If he stays reserve then it seems he will keep full benefits.

[trio4]

Thanks for taking the time to reply to me. I'll be reading through the link you sent me. My husband is currently an E5. He will be at 14 yrs in Aug. He is an AS2.

Still trying to figure out how he thought he was under a grandfather clause. Glad to know they aren't recruiting dropouts anymore, not that they don't need a good opportunity, but it seems wrong to put so much money into new recruits when they've got plently of sailors that have shown their committment and would love to stay.

Thanks for all your help! Hope to update with some good news soon.

[MacSteve]

Also I'm not sure if hes got 6 months left or not.. but if he does, he can put in a High Year Tension Waiver

[Fubarjonny]

"Yet they are taking HS dropouts without GEDs and paying for them to have a great life"

Macsteve is right. That's so far from the truth it actually made me laugh.

[BoatsBM1]

E-5 highyear tenure adjustment message;

http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/720E6A9F-73C8-40AD-AC20-D25331E509F0/0/nav05056.txt

Note the contacts regarding HYT wavier requests, other POC , etc.

[sweetmtn]

From what I am hearing..the best way to stay in longer is to strike for a different rate that promotes at a higher percentage to E6. It is just a thought, as after 13 years, I am pretty sure he likes his rate now.

[Retired Navy Chief]

From what I am hearing..the best way to stay in longer is to strike for a different rate that promotes at a higher percentage to E6. It is just a thought, as after 13 years, I am pretty sure he likes his rate now.


I agree ... if you can swing it.

It won't be easy mind you, taking the E-6 advancement exam for a rate that you have worked in the whole time is hard enough ... doing it for a whole new job description can be challenging (but it can be done ;) ).

Cheers,
PISTOL

[Critic101]

Yea, I got out before my HYT could effect my DD-214. I ended up getting out with and RE-1 code and joined the Navy reserves the same month I got out of active duty. I then submitted my package for the reserve CANREC program, and got selected. After 3 years of doing recruiting duty I will be able to cross rate to NC and go back active as a Navy recruiter.

Just food for thought, there are many ways to work the system. You just gotta find your niche! Recruiting was mine...